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ah, yes... I always shoot from some sort of a rest to make sure the pistol will hit where I am aming... then when I try it normaly, I know it is all me that is messing up those groups!!

but really I have only sat down and looked at that when evaluating shots with my MKII (where I am trying for far more accuracy). With my P-11 I practice for trying to hit a pie plate fast (some slow fire to just to make sure I can stop and do some trigger control, but mostly working on fast shots), and if I miss it is preatty obvious why (jerked the trigger, pulled down...)

I kinda like the small versions of the IDPA targets. I tape up 4 on one target and send it down range (in door range) and practice double taps then aquiring a new target quickly(wish it was a bit farther away, but I use what I have...)
 
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