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I'm thinking of buying a Star PD .45 and heard that the "recoil spring buffer" will not function after about 500 rounds, is this true and if so does anyone supply these?
Any help please!
Any help please!
Star PD .45
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Absolutely, unequivocally not true.
The Star PD is a FINE handgun, and personally I'd place it above most smaller 1911-based designs on the market, including Kimber and Para.
Maybe someone's trying to talk you into a more expensive gun... but you will NOT go wrong with the Star.
And yes, aftermarket parts are readily available for the PD... it was extremely popular for a long time, and with good reason.
Flyer
The Star PD is a FINE handgun, and personally I'd place it above most smaller 1911-based designs on the market, including Kimber and Para.
Maybe someone's trying to talk you into a more expensive gun... but you will NOT go wrong with the Star.
And yes, aftermarket parts are readily available for the PD... it was extremely popular for a long time, and with good reason.
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Star PD
I have a Star PD and have put probably 4000 rounds through it no problems.
I do not know what you mean about recoil buffer in a pistol, I have a WASR10AK that you can get a rubber buffer for to help keep the recoil from beating the gun to pieces, maybe you are talking about a part that goes by a different name or something because I have never seen anything but springs, guiderods, and bushings and plungers on any pistol that I ever took apart except the Cobra M-11 9
I have a Star PD and have put probably 4000 rounds through it no problems.
I do not know what you mean about recoil buffer in a pistol, I have a WASR10AK that you can get a rubber buffer for to help keep the recoil from beating the gun to pieces, maybe you are talking about a part that goes by a different name or something because I have never seen anything but springs, guiderods, and bushings and plungers on any pistol that I ever took apart except the Cobra M-11 9
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Star PD
Thanks for the feedback, I'm not sure what they (posts on forums I found doing a search for Star PD) are talking about either, thats why I asked you folks about it. "They" all also mentioned what a great .45 it is so I think I will add it to my collection. The exact phrases used "shock buffer" "recoil spring buffer"????????? If you folks never heard of it in reference to the Star PD .45 then I will not be concerned with it!
THANKS!
Thanks for the feedback, I'm not sure what they (posts on forums I found doing a search for Star PD) are talking about either, thats why I asked you folks about it. "They" all also mentioned what a great .45 it is so I think I will add it to my collection. The exact phrases used "shock buffer" "recoil spring buffer"????????? If you folks never heard of it in reference to the Star PD .45 then I will not be concerned with it!
THANKS!
Well, what they're talking about is the recoil spring rod... which is basically just a metal rod that fits into the recoil spring at the chamber end, like the one on a 1911.
I've never heard anything about this part failing... in fact I'm not even sure how it COULD fail!
Flyer
I've never heard anything about this part failing... in fact I'm not even sure how it COULD fail!
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The Shok Buffer is a Polymer ring made to soften the slides slamming into the guide rod and thus the frame. Believe that is a Wilson trade mark nowadaysFlyer said:
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Right the buffer is really made out of polymer but I just call it rubber, I dont see why you would need a buffer for a pistol to work right, my wasr10 works fine with or without one, in fact on a full auto if you remove the buffer your gun will kick harder but it will actually fire more rounds per minute.
Also, not all 1911 models have a guide rod!, Colts have the recoil springs and a bushing that holds a plunger, the plunger holds the springs back.
But Flyer is right! some models have the guide rod.
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Right the buffer is really made out of polymer but I just call it rubber, I dont see why you would need a buffer for a pistol to work right, my wasr10 works fine with or without one, in fact on a full auto if you remove the buffer your gun will kick harder but it will actually fire more rounds per minute.
Also, not all 1911 models have a guide rod!, Colts have the recoil springs and a bushing that holds a plunger, the plunger holds the springs back.
But Flyer is right! some models have the guide rod.
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Ahem...
The issue was that of a BUFFER... of which the PD doesn't have one. It's got the standard 1911-type spring guide rod.
And almost ALL 1911s have the standard bushing-spring-rod arrangement... it was THIS I was referring to as the "guide rod".
Yes, there are some 1911s that have been modified to use a full-length guide rod... and I wouldn't touch 'em with a ten-fool pole.
Flyer
The issue was that of a BUFFER... of which the PD doesn't have one. It's got the standard 1911-type spring guide rod.
And almost ALL 1911s have the standard bushing-spring-rod arrangement... it was THIS I was referring to as the "guide rod".
Yes, there are some 1911s that have been modified to use a full-length guide rod... and I wouldn't touch 'em with a ten-fool pole.
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PS love the PD, get it, take careof it, and it will take care of you ! 155 gr Win Silvertips==good load. Stay away from +P. :shock:
:lol: Flyer : my PD has this part.[ Buffer ] The recoil rod is a 5 part assm [counting spring ], what looks like the flared seat at the barrel link end is actually a seperate piece of hard PLASTIC ! The larger end at the link unscrews . [ rt hand thread-!! caution- some type of thread lock agent was used from the factory. ] The factory recoil spring rate was only 12 lbs., so the buffer was used to protect the alloy frame. Numrich Arms, [ Gun Parts Corp ], has them listed ,but have not had any for qiite a while. [ Part # 128690 ] Units like Wilson buffers can be made to work, but don't stand up very long. I tried to find some for the PD , and only could locate 4 used ones on Gunbroker.com, W/ 2 Wollf springs,they went for around $75.- NOT TO ME!! I installed a spring .023" larger wire dia., 1 less coil, approx 1/4" longer free length. Nothing to check with but I think its about 17 lbs. My buffer is in good shape and I want to keep it that way. One more caution: if you mess W/ springs, check for coil bind. Barrel bushings are hard to find and not built for that kind of pressure. Don't ask how i know this. Hope this helps, MaGee's husband.Flyer said:
PS love the PD, get it, take careof it, and it will take care of you ! 155 gr Win Silvertips==good load. Stay away from +P. :shock:
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Firestar
I might be wrong but wasnt it the Firestar Thunder ( or something like that ) that replaced the LLama for a while
I might be wrong but wasnt it the Firestar Thunder ( or something like that ) that replaced the LLama for a while
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Star PD
Just some friendly advice on your Star. Over the years I have seen several with cracked frames where the slidestop fits. I don't know if Star improved the alloy frame so it may be wise to shoot it little and carry a lot. These are really great pistols and in their day could hold their own with any 1911.
Good luck.
Just some friendly advice on your Star. Over the years I have seen several with cracked frames where the slidestop fits. I don't know if Star improved the alloy frame so it may be wise to shoot it little and carry a lot. These are really great pistols and in their day could hold their own with any 1911.
Good luck.
A Star PD was my second-ever carry gun (the first being a revolver). I don't have that one anymore (wish I did), but I currently have two others - an older, blued model I bought from a local retired AF officer & one of the last Starvel-finish models imported which I found at AuctionArms.com several years ago. All three were fine pistols - I didn't have any problems with any of them.
Star PD 45
Just a heads up; I just received 3 brand new original recoil buffers for the PD. Jack First Inc, Rapid City S.D.-Tel 605-343-9544. They have these made for them to original specs[ hard plastic material W/ bushing portion. ] I can't tell them from factory. ] $14 ea. and worth it.
HTH. MaGee's Husband
Just a heads up; I just received 3 brand new original recoil buffers for the PD. Jack First Inc, Rapid City S.D.-Tel 605-343-9544. They have these made for them to original specs[ hard plastic material W/ bushing portion. ] I can't tell them from factory. ] $14 ea. and worth it.HTH. MaGee's Husband
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