bought a used S&W 669 about a month ago. just returned from range. what a nice gun and more accurate than i can shoot. 24 rnds at 7 yds. and 24 at 10 yds. polished ramp and it was trouble free. hard to believe how well i shot it. seriously considering using it for ccw qualification. a little large for ccw carry tho. more accurate than my mak or p11 at least for me.