As I wrote in my previous post, I have found that PMC will not get smileys and hits with square footage!. I have always trusted Hydra-Shok for self-defence, but have always noticed light strikes on the primers and my gun hits slightly off center. I have tried these PMC 90gr. hollow points today and had no problems, the primer is wider by being not curved over like the Hydra-Shoks and the primers seem to be softer giving me good dents on the primers, they have large mouth caviteys so I think they would mushroom good! The rim is not cut to the v shape like Hydra-Shok and most other brands but they eject great!. But I have heard some people say good things about them and bad things about them but neither side has ever tried them in the kel-tec. I give them thumbs-up! but only fired 50 rounds, I would hate to bet my life on them and have somekind of misfire!, but on the other hand with the Hydra-Shok the light hits on the primer could also cause a misfire!. I just need to know if anyone knows a little about the PMC hollow points reliability in the kel-tec??