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    Should've seen it coming....

    It was just a matter of time.Call them whatever you want.....Liberals, Socialists, Communists. They infiltrated this Country long ago disguised as your average American citizen. These people knew that they couldn't change this Country overnight. Patience and time was all they needed.

    Half of the Country is out of work and on Welfare. Our children are being indoctrinated to the Socialist cause at the earliest age possible. The Constitution is being ignored (or redefined) by the people who took an oath to uphold it.

    Do we really have anyone else to blame but ourselves ?






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    Don't give up the fight, I am not, I write many different representatives quite regularly, it does better than nothing. I am also a NRA Life member as well as the Second Amendment Foundation, as well as a member of Gun Owners of America.

    What I would like to see is the elimination of both parties, and a person only voted into office by their merit record or ethics. The Two party system only works to create divisions so something can be argued over.

    I have been into areas where just about ever individual voted straight democrat, just because John Kennedy gave them something. The candidates could be the worst , but it made no difference. they voted straight democrat, without even knowing about any issues. Kinda like most of today's voters.
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    Well, Pseudomind, as we are both about the same age would you agree that this is not the Country we knew as children? I wish I could find the quote from either Lenin or Stalin where it was said that America would never accept Communists as such. The way to change America was to slowly infiltrate our Government and chip away at everything we stood for from within.

    The two-party system seemed to work for some time. At least any damage that was caused by either Party in power wasn't as overreaching as what we are seeing today. The Democrats of yesterday are the Socialist/Communists of today. The Conservatives of yesterday are the Rinos of today. The Tea Party is considered to represent the extreme Right. The number of politicians who have come out of the closet and revealed their darkside far outnumber the amount of Gays who opened the door.

    Never in my life have I heard so much bulls--t come out of the mouths of people like Obama, Reid, Pelosi or Biden. They speak with total conviction spoon-feeding the uninformed masses that lean on their every word. I often wondered what kind of person could continually vote to keep the likes of Pelosi in office. Well it seems that she represents the District in California that brought us "Folsom Street Parades" which is an open example of the Gay depravity that we allow to exist.

    Why do we continue to allow these career Politicians to stay in office without so much as a yearly psych-evaluation. If they aren't willing to submit to some sort of mental competency then maybe there should be forced retirement like airline pilots are subjected to. I believe Diane Feinstein just turned 80yrs. old this year and we all know it's a three-legged squirrel turning the wheel in her brain.

    The lawmakers here in Colorado just passed a law permitting same day voter registration. I think we all know the repercussions that will follow this law. Colorado is one of several states that has seen a migration of people coming from failed States like California. The problem is that they bring their idealistic baggage with them. All three branches of Government in Colorado are controlled by Liberals. Several unconstitutional gun laws were passed and signed into law. A Civil Union bill was rammed through and passed. It's amusing to note that the House leader is openly GAY! Our Obama wannabe Governor granted a reprieve to convicted murderer Nathan Dunlop who was scheduled to be executed in August effectively negating the decision of a jury and that of several failed appeals.

    I'm posting two things I found on the Web following my rant here. I found them to be not only amusing but true.

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    Difference Between Liberals and Conservatives...

    If a Conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a Liberal doesn't like guns, they believe no one should have one.

    If a Conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat. If a Liberal is, they want to ban all meat products for everyone.

    If a Conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. A Liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

    If a Conservative is homosexual, he quietly enjoys life. If a Liberal is homosexual, they loudly demand legislated respect.

    If a Conservative is a minority , he sees himself as independently successful. Their Liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.

    If a Conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A Liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

    If a Conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

    If a Conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A Liberal wants all churches to be silenced.

    If a Conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A Liberal demands that his neighbors pay for his.

    If a Conservative disagrees with a Liberal president, he is called a racist. When a Liberal disagrees with a Conservative president, it's patriotic dissent.

    If a Conservative expresses his political view, he is called an idiot. A Liberal expressing his political views is expressing his right to Freedom of Speech.

    “I never use the words Democrats and Republicans. It’s Liberals and Americans.- James Watt, Ronald Reagan’s Interior Secretary

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    When someone cannot explain why they voted for Democrats, give them this list. They can then pick their reasons from this "TOP 12"...

    Top 12 reasons why I voted democrat

    1. I voted Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.

    2. I voted Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

    3. I voted Democrat because Freedom of Speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

    4. I voted Democrat because I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.

    5. I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

    6. I voted Democrat because I'm not concerned about millions of babies being aborted so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

    7. I voted Democrat because I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education, and Social Security benefits.

    8. I voted Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as the Democrats see fit.

    9. I voted Democrat because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.

    10. I voted Democrat because I think that it's better to pay billions to people who hate us for their oil, but not drill our own because it might upset some endangered beetle or gopher.

    11. I voted Democrat because while we live in the greatest, most wonderful country in the world, I was promised "HOPE AND CHANGE".

    12. I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my as_, it's unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

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    Well, personally I vote (and am registered) Independent. I look at each office up on the ballot and decide who I believe will be best of the choices offered. Occasionally, if nobody is worthy of my vote, I leave it blank. I think the leadership of both parties (not necessarily the rank and file membership) have their own agendas, and that agenda is about their power and not about the common citizen. At this point in time, I believe the majority Republicans in office are doing more harm to the average American than they are helping. I do not consider myself to be either Liberal or Conservative, but a mixture of both. To be fair, though, when I look at current "standards" I probably lean a little more towards liberal than what people are calling conservative these days.

    I am a Christian and was raised Southern Baptist. I now live in an area that is 98% Catholic. I believe strongly in freedom of religion, but I also believe in the separation of Church and State. I do not believe ANY one religion should have influence over the laws of this country, including Christianity, because when that happens we will no longer have Freedom of Religion. It does not count to say "you are free to choose your own religion, but you will still have to live by the laws of MY religion!"

    I have been a gun owner in the past and am a strong supporter of Second Amendment rights. I currently hold a valid License to Carry in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania add will own a handgun (hopefully a Kel-Tec) as soon as I get past some current financial difficulties. I also believe in responsibility. I do believe there are some people who absolutely have no business possessing a firearm. I do not believe in having to register guns nor in some of the goofy restrictions that are being pushed right now. I do believe a background check is reasonable in at least trying to screen out some of those I mentioned before who shouldn't have a gun. They need to find a way to make such background checks actually effective (especially in the case of potentially dangerous mental illness).

    I believe that more people think like this than care to admit it. More people see that there are reasonable points to both "sides" of the Liberal/Conservative bandwagons. It is my personal belief that ANYONE who is willing to declare that a person is either evil or stupid or "Commie" or any other insult out there, just because they are a member of one political party or the other ... needs to look hard in the mirror. If someone buys into everything any political party is selling then they are, as the saying goes, "drinking the Kool-Aid." The only difference is which flavor they are drinking.

    12. I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my as_, it's unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.
    Let's take this one and make it as follows:

    12-A: I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my as_, it's unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

    12-B: I voted Republican because my head is so firmly planted up my as_, it's unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

    It works about the same both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesprit View Post
    I believe that more people think like this than care to admit it. More people see that there are reasonable points to both "sides" of the Liberal/Conservative bandwagons. It is my personal belief that ANYONE who is willing to declare that a person is either evil or stupid or "Commie" or any other insult out there, just because they are a member of one political party or the other ... needs to look hard in the mirror. If someone buys into everything any political party is selling then they are, as the saying goes, "drinking the Kool-Aid." The only difference is which flavor they are drinking.



    Let's take this one and make it as follows:

    12-A: I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my as_, it's unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

    12-B: I voted Republican because my head is so firmly planted up my as_, it's unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

    It works about the same both ways.
    Hmmmm .... sounds a lot like me, other than I'm a Unitarian Universalist living in the Buckle of the Bible belt here in TN. I pledge no allegiance to any political party/ideology/dogma... folks think I'm a so called liberal, I prefer the term "rational realist."

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    Everyone has a core belief whether it be Democrat or Republican. Obviously I can't make you take sides. I have found that a lot of registered Independents have only one argument when it comes to politics and that is always "Well both sides do it." That doesn't cut it with me. While each side has individuals that go against the grain of their party the Party itself has core values that differentiates itself from the other. While I might vote for a Democrat at the local level (where his pro-abortion beliefs don't matter) I would never give him the opportunity to screw me over at the Federal level. I would rather drink the Republican "Kool-Aid" than the Liberal "Snake-Oil." While I respect both of your opinions I don't see the relevance of your religious beliefs in this matter so I didn't bring mine into the conversation.


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    The ONLY reason for voting a straight ticket is because a person is either too lazy to actually research the issues and candidates or they are too weak to actually make their own decisions instead of having someone else (as in the party) tell them what they are supposed to think.

    I'm not foolish enough to think I'm going to change your mind, it seems clear that you are so entrenched in the party dogma that you automatically dismiss anything anyone else says and try to find some way to make them look bad for not agreeing. Gee, sounds very familiar lately. It's a very big part of what is hurting the Republican party the most.

    As for me, I am quite comfortable with my own mind and my own choices. I don't need your approval any more than you need mine and that really is not what my posting here was about anyway. I simply find the clearly biased attempts to make one group of people look better than the other through insults instead of actual discussion to be both offensive and juvenile. I would say the same thing if it had been Democrats or Liberals posting the same types of insults about Republicans / Conservatives.

    Now, you have a nice day!

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    The ONLY reason for voting a straight ticket is because a person is either too lazy to actually research the issues and candidates or they are too weak to actually make their own decisions instead of having someone else (as in the party) tell them what they are supposed to think.
    How do you research a candidate (Obama) who has sealed all of his past and the Lamestream Media refuses to vet him?

    I said I could vote for a Democrat on the local level even though I might disagree with some of his ideals but you were too busy being offended to recall that and instead inferred that I'm too lazy to do any research and would rather just vote "straight ticket."

    it seems clear that you are so entrenched in the party dogma that you automatically dismiss anything anyone else says and try to find some way to make them look bad for not agreeing.
    If you weren't so naïve you would know that this has been the marching orders of Obama's minions and the Media since 2010 when Republicans took the House back.

    I have followed politics for over 30yrs. and don't need to research what I have already lived through. Liberals are the ones that get offended when you don't believe what they say even though they never offer proof. When they do offer proof it is usually edited to fit their argument. I see videos everyday that confirm the Liberal hypocrisy. This is a fact and not a lack of research.

    "If liberals were merely stupid, the laws of probability would dictate that at least some of their decisions would serve America's interests."
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